I'm 61 and my 17' Old Town Canadienne was just getting to be too much for me to load and unload. It was such a perfect solo canoe I replaced it with a new one in 2010. The seat requires no maintenance and will serve you comfortably for many, many years. There's enough versatility packed into this 33-lb. I found out that recently they quit making Royalex so I purchased a new Pack canoe from the local REI store - it was the last one in stock. Longtime member. Buy an Ultralight, not an Old Town Pack! I have used a 16' Grumman for 30 years, but it's just too big to haul by myself and too hard to get into some of the water we boat. The Pack canoe is truly the best and most enjoyable purchase I have ever made. But still, it requires care to stay upright in larger waves. The Old Town Pack is about the lightest and easiest handling solo canoe that I have found. Sign in to check out Check out as guest . I am a woman in her 60's, 5'4", and strong, but no Amazon. Old Town Pack Canoe ($919 in Royalex, oldtowncanoe.com) L: 12′; W:32″; D: 11.5″, 33 lbs. I bought a Pack after reading the reviews here. I wanted to write something here because this site was so useful when I was trying to decide whether to buy a Pack. I have switched to a canoe paddle. In combination with the front thwart, the second thwart allows for two different paddling positions. This is the lowest new boat price around. I've only had it out 5 times now for a couple of hours at a time, ...and only in fairly calm water, but I love it. I still have not done the Green but I did do the Lower Colorado below Hoover Dam. Purchased a 2015 OT Pack. Combine that with its vinyl gunwales and stout wooden thwart and seat, and you’ve got a craft ready for years of on- and off-water use. Tracking is a little off probably because of it's short length but it's still easy to paddle along. Made in 1990, the hull is made of Royalex, which provides exceptional Abrasion resistance and springs back from impacts. This canoe is built using royalex, a light-weight material just as durable as poly products, though it will show marks if you hit a rock hard enough. I also can't believe how FAST this canoe paddles (with a double blade) compared to the SOT kayaks...I can paddle all day with my buddies in the SOT's and usually have to slow for them. I found an ad for a OT Pack for $200 so rushed out, looked it over and handed over the cash. I use ONLY a traditional straight beaver tail because I'm in it for the experience, not how fast I can go. It was also our photographer’s boat of choice. It does alot better when loaded, but I still need a correction before and after the power stroke. So far I have taken the canoe down class II rapids on the Delaware River in PA and White River in VT. I use the seat in what I think is the factory position, which is with 1.5" drop-downs from the gunnel. Not bad for a boat like this IMHO. First of all, I knew to drop the seat a few inches for stability. Shipping: FREE Economy Shipping | See details . MSRP $1099 I WILL NOT SHIP THIS CANOE. I chose the Old Town Saranac 146 canoe because of its quality, features, size, and price. I have often fallen asleep on such outings. Occasionally we do use the Old Town sailing kit and on Burntside Lake, Pamlico Sound, Chespeake Bay or Kentucky Lake we can really fly. I can roll the Pack over to the gunwale and paddle it all the way across a lake on windless days. I use a Bending Branches Beavertail most of the time, I like the process of paddling but I did buy a 240 cm kayak paddle for getting across big lakes quickly. Advice. Would recommend to anyone but try it out first to see if you like it. I always lower the seat or install my own with solo canoes. Portaging is a breeze. About stability, I have never considered leaving the seat in its original position. Of course the big plus is the low weight. Lesson learned - rotating hips and buns off center on the stock seat disrupts center of gravity. The Pack can easily carry a paddler plus supplies and provisions for extended solo trips in excess of a week. I am very dissatisfied with its performance and stability....going to sell it asap. But I can tell you the guy I sold it to was all smiles as he paddled up river. Made for solo use and well-suited for double-bladed paddle. Still no issues after two years. Blog › Forums › Fly Fishing › Old Town Guide/Discovery 119 versus Pack 12 This topic has 2 replies, 2 voices, and was last updated Apr 15, 2014 at 9:34 am by Zach Matthews . Well, it is a canoe and not a John boat, but I have to say for a canoe of its dimensions it ain't too bad. PROS: Very stable out of the box. It must be that advancing age thing. Surprisingly stable for such a small boat, even with a squirming, nervous dog on board--have never accidentally capsized, even in heavy wind when I thought we might swamp. But I love this canoe for its ease of loading/unloading from atop a vehicle, lightness, carrying capacity for my gear and simplicity. Used Old Town Pack Canoe Solo -Made of tough Royalex, this recreational canoe is so lightweight that anyone who can paddle solo can carry it. Yes, it was both light-weight and stable (it would have to be with a flat bottom and 34 inch width) but I could not keep with the rest of my group. Tracking is within reason with good technique. I have had a 16' Mad River for years and wanted something I could load by myself. The longer double blade helps to keep your ride dry and much faster. Old Town Pack Canoe($919 in Royalex, oldtowncanoe.com) I am a big guy 6'2" and never felt crowded. I agree that the tracking is a challenge with the Pack, but then I could just stay home as an alternative. A telegram for Mr. Paddler Many canoes and kayaks have passed thru life over the decades... the OT Pack will be with me to the end of my time. And much like Greywolf, it was a dream to tie the pup to my belt, pick up my drybox in one hand, and snatch up that canoe with the paddle lashed to the thwart and seat, and head to the roof rack with it... Those folks at the picnic table a ways off just looked on with amazement. I had a pack canoe. Vintage Old Town, Maine Souvenir Birchbark Canoe ~ The old town pack is a very l. its got a strange bit of black metal on each side which maybe for an adjustable seat system. When solo I take a bag of decoys and dog (90lbs) and just move along with no problem. Also carry a 54 inch aluminum and plastic single, likewise built for abuse. Guess this is more a review of Old Town than anything...but they sure are nice to deal with! That position and the short, 12 ft. length are insurance against high winds, which are pretty standard in the Oregon Cascades. No reason to duplicate all the kudos - maneuverable, light... it's a joy. It's a very maneuverable boat. Have used it on small ponds to huge lakes, initially for paddling & fishing, and most recently for paddling my 2 dogs (90 lbs total + my 150 lbs) around exploring the lake. While it does not track the best due to its short length, it's great for calm lakes or downriver floats. One issue, not really fond of the shoulder carry, and thwarts not really set up for a normal carry. They claim to have incorporated both canoeing and kayaking characteristics in one small, fun and modern boat. Bottom line: As a result, during my last canoe trip, I was able to make an average speed of 3mph, fully loaded, against a headwind on a 13 mile long lake. At 12', it's a little small to fit a standard commercial canoe trailer. I did buy a breakdown kayak paddle this year after getting stuck in the wind last year and the previous reviews are correct about the amount of droplets into the canoe. it needed to be light. Expect portages with any boat. Also, after using a sit ontop kayak for a few years, she wanted to stay dry. Both front and rear of my canoe have dents now but it's still working fine. < P> Due to my bad knees, I am a sitter, and unfortunately there is no seat adjustment or "sitter" model that you can buy to fix this. All considered, I think this is one of the great canoes ever made, and one that gets a lot less publicity than it deserves. I still have my first canoe - an Old Town 12’ hard fiberglass pack canoe from 1973. So after a ruined summer trying to get used to the Pack 12, we got rid of it. Very squirrely with my weight up high. Nobody ever needs to assist me with my boat, which I like. Once I started using a double bladed Kayak paddle I am able to go upstream well. It easily handled the currents and conditions of a major river, and some extreme barge wakes, while loaded in this capacity. Next year I will add knee braces, I think. Actually surprised by stability compared to my 25 year old Katahdin 12 by Old Town which is a barge with 40" beam. Just get an aftermarket backrest and foot pegs and you’ll be good to go.”. As others have done, I lowered the seat by purchasing 6 inch long stainless steel screws and brass pipe sleeves. Delighted! In October 2010 I repeated the 340 mile float from St. Joe to Hermann, MO in just 5 days. Will try lowering the seat. Features. The PACK will tip easily and overturn without much warning. I don't see the Pack or my old Grumman ever leaving my fleet. I have had three other solo canoes and like this one the best for tracking, stability and turning. OT likely located the seat to allow kneelers to be more weight-centered in the boat. Kayaks are always getting stuck but I just "hop" off the rocks and keep on going. Today was the first time on the water, and after a short time getting used to a rhythmic j-stroke, she performed well. It is incredibly light. The little creek near home is extremely rocky and shallow with many obstructions like fallen trees. I'm 6 feet 200 pounds and learned quickly its capabilities and limitations. I have never had the slightest stability problem. I am selling it and looking for something better. With a double blade, it easily handles wind and gets up to a good cruising speed very quickly. It does everything you ask of it. 4.5 (10) View the 10 reviews with an average rating of 4.5 out of 5 stars. I picked this boat up for my wife from a fellow that had too many canoes. Découvrez les Canoës / Kayak Old Town . We moved slow and steady and navigated with little trouble in the wind and rain. Still had a great time, didn't swamp. I found the canoe in the classifieds and upon seeing it I had to have it. At around only 14kg's it's an ideal small solo canoe. Besides if its speed you want buy something known for speed, this canoe is known for its light weight and versatility. Had I not obtained the Dagger, I would not hesitate to employ the Pack in the role I pioneered for it. and 100% of what I paid for it is coming back to me. I find that this boat tracks as well as one would expect for this style of boat. This works fine for kneeling but for sitting a 260 might be better. I believe the designer chose dynamic over static stability. Simply cut to your desired length and "plug and play." Again, the more I use this boat, the more I love it! Old Town Pack Canoe Repairs. Ducks are not too alarmed by the canoe and will allow me close enough, and even if they fly off they'll settle down close by, but the canoe has to be positioned as rapid movement plus recoil might throw me off balance. IT IS FOR LOCAL PICKUP ONLY.THE PACK There’s enough versatility packed into this 12-foot, solo canoe to keep it going from dawn to dusk, Old Town 12' Pack Canoe: 1986 Old Town catalog page for the 12' Pack: I picked up my first Pack canoe on a 1987 trip to Montana, but I made the mistake of selling it about 2004. The little Pack turns easily in the current even for ignorant fools like me. Kept it for a couple of years and then sold it to a very happy buyer. Great canoe esp for women as you can portage it on your own and a nice small size of only 12ft. Its best use is for fishing, paddling streams and small ponds/lakes. At 33 lbs I can carry it to the lake with one hand. If anyone knows of one for sale please give me a heads up. I love that the Pack was a light but stable boat. However, for Father's Day 2007 my sons gave me an Old Town Pack. I use a kayak paddle for covering large distances but sometimes when at a good fishing spot I also use a short paddle for maneuvering. 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